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Capitol Building. They were sworn in and then a bunch of hoopla. Then, they sat at a long table. A stack of pre-printed papers were passed down. Each elector had a box of pens. They used a separate pen for each paper. It was the same document, a vote for Reagan and Bush. He said there were about 20 copies of it total. Then, they were asked to sign a small card with just their name, not everyone's name on it. That was given to them with a pair of pens as proof they were electors. There were snacks and they were sent on their way. At no time did he secretly write down names on a stub of paper and slip it into a secret ballot. All he did was sign his name on a pre-printed collective vote over and over. He didn't go to Washington DC. He didn't vote there. Missouri sent at least one of the collectively signed documents to Federal Congress to announce their electoral votes. My opinion is that Missouri is not weird in how they did it. I expect most states operate in a very similar manner.
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the Moon rocks brought back by the Apollo 11 mission and other missions. (I doubt this included tasting them, though.) But this does not invalidate the argument itself. A classical syllogism has only two premises, but I think we can apply the same criterion to an argument with more than two premises. The cigarā€“weed argument of the OP is IMO defective in at least two respects. The first one is that there is an implicit, omitted premise, namely: For a substance to be illegal, it must be worse than all legal substances. (I interpret "must" here as "ought to", an obligation of lawmakers, not a logical necessity.) Granting this premise, though, as pointed out by others above, the conclusion still does not follow. The premises combined allow a world in which cigars "must" be illegal and weed remains illegal. All this does not answer the OP's question for a name to this type of defect. Ā --
1355:(ec)Every sentence in that argument is flawed. One flaw is the statement that marijuana is illegal. The degree of its legality is defined by various state and federal laws. Another is the opinion that cigars are "worse than" marijuana. Another is defining them as "drugs", which would be decided by law, not by the author's personal opinion. And another is the assertion that both "must be legal". Clearly, the legality of each item has been defined by law. Even forgetting that there's no statement of which country this applies to. I might say the fallacy is "starting with dubious assumptions to reach a dubious conclusion." ā† 596:, which has the advantage of being just over 100 years old and hence fully browsable. I wonder whether it makes an equivalent statement to the quote anywhere. (Having examined it, probably not, but like any of these books, the theory being presented is muddled and hard to pin down. In this case the theory seems to be that the constellations were originally named after the influence of the signs: but also that both signs and constellations, despite now being separated, continue to have influence. Why not!) 517:. Unfortunately he is not contactable for comment, unless we try a medium. It may be necessary to write this off as an unknown source. On the other hand if any astrologer (including a more modern one!) can be found to have trotted out the same idea, Abell's comment becomes valid again to quote as a counterpoint, even without knowing the source of the verbatim quote. (Depending what your project is here, exactly. I assume you're revising a related article?) 2136:
During a predefined operation there may be routine calls that merely announce "Observation post reporting, no enemy sighting." An unexpected call might be initiated with "Hello this is General Threestar's office with new orders to General Twostar" to which the response might be either "Hallo this is Twostar, what the blazes is going on?" or "Hello the general is unavailable, shall I connect you to Lieutenant Standin?".
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figure out what the cup is for. I assume it has something to do with the operation of the unit or it wouldn't be included. But, if that was the case, it would be mentioned somewhere. It isn't even mentioned in the packing list, but I can see that at least one other person received one with their unit. Can anyone find any resource that mentions what the cup is supposed to be used for?
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statements made on the application are true and correct; 3) I have not knowingly and willfully made false statements or included false documents in support of this application; 4) the photograph submitted with this application is a genuine, current photograph of me; and 5) I have read and understood the warning on page 4 of the instructions to the application form.
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you look at the image, I even tried to enlarge it but could not understand much, to cast this fake vote these ā€œelectorsā€ had to write down the candidate's name? It looked like this to me. Granted that this is a curiosity for its own sake, but still a curiosity, I would like to understand more if possible and I rely on the good heart You Users. Thank you very much.
1449:) is "worse" than weed, and it's implicit that this is the same as "more harmfull" and that items more harmfull than an unknown threshold are labelled "must be illegal". So given these conditions, and the four possible combinations of legal/illegal against cigar and weed, three of those combinations are allowed, and all we know for sure is that the combination 1153:" is an ordered set, with a quantity like "good-for-you"ness, in which drugs that are "bad" are below some threshold number. So for this example, we'll say the "good-for-you" scale is from -10 to 10, and drugs rated -1 or below are "bad", while those 0 or higher are "not bad". All drugs have a rating and must be either bad or not bad (The 670:(thirteenth) month is added when two new (or full) moons fall within one sidereal (as opposed to tropical, "sun sign") month. AstroLynx's claim that '"tropical astrologers" are mainly found in India' may mean no more than that, of the population of India who are astrologers, a goodly proportion live within the tropics. 2135:
How one starts a telephone conversation in a military context depends on whether one is making the call or responding to a call, whether there is an operation in progress and whether the line is secure. The word "Hello" itself conveys nothing but it would be correct to use in "Hello can you hear me?"
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quietly to myself in the reception area of a police station whilst on probation: and a burly copper appeared and stood silently at the front door, ready to turn people away, while doors banged very loudly and ominously throughout the building. It's as if people were aware of what I was thinking. Most
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clearly is not. So let's give Harry a warm welcome when he comes for the 2024 WellChild awards tomorrow week. An invitation was recently extended to readers to apply to the High Court to view the papers in the case against Camilla Parker Bowles (case no. AC-24-LON-002619). Has anyone done this?
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Hello. I turn to Knowledge so that it can come to my rescue let's say, can help me better understand the object of my curiosity. Now, with the understanding that the thing itself has no value as obvious, the image in the link depicts Arizona's fake electors casting their ā€œvotesā€ for Trump in 2020. If
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you will see the new year festival is moving forward - (proleptic) Gregorian 5 April in AD 1469 to 29 April in AD 2999. That's 24 days in 1,530 years or a whole year in ((365.2422/24) x 1530) = 23,284 years, which is roughly how long the equinox takes to move from the constellation of Aries (or any
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At the Swedish National Museum in Ɩstermalm, Stockholm, Sweden there is a small clay figure at a display case. It's an adult male figure, wearing a suit and tie, with thick black eyeglasses, reading an opened book on its hands. I have a picture of it but have not uploaded it to Knowledge or Commons.
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Yes, it was always me. I'm an ā€œenthusiastā€ of the American Electoral College, in this case I'm intrigued by the way the Electors cast their votes. Those are the certificates, of course, but first they vote obviously in two separate ballots. Voting can be done in different ways, the mode changes from
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If you look at my answer above -- and I had to clean it up a bit -- it does explain how all this works in a syllogism. As I outline, you need to specify the implied premise that makes the relationship between legality of drugs and badness of drugs, and then you can proceed deductively. Your instinct
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What I was talking about (I am the op) is that he is using the fact that weed is also a drug, and a "even worse drug" (cigar) is legal to say weed is illegal. But you could use the same argument saying that weed is a drug that is illegal and cigar is also a drug and "is even worse" so cigars must be
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The reason I gave OP a detailed formal analysis is because OP asked for a formal analysis of the logic in their question. The actual person they were talking about will almost certainly not change a single thing about their opinion once one points out the logical fallacy in their specific wording --
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from these premises. So the following syllogism is valid: P1: The Moon is made of green cheese. P2: Some Moon rocks are stored in Houston Texas. C: Therefore, some green cheese is stored in Houston Texas. Scientists generally believe that P1 is false, which has been confirmed by elaborate testing of
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of my implied premises of society, you can't do anything with formal logic with just the premises laid. The reason for this is that there are no other premises that show the connection between "bad drugs" and "legal drugs" -- what relationship they have with each other. If you can think of any other
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which is required for naturalisation not a passport. Someone who isn't a US citizen would need to take such an oath before they can be naturalised which of course means they need to do it before they can get a passport. But that's a somewhat different thing and isn't part of the passport process per
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The book gives some attributes to named stars and charts alleged effects of their passage through the sun signs. There is also treatment of the effects of constellations as distinct from sun signs. There is a lot of confusion among non-Hindus in their terminology. This appears to stem from the
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We replaced our old washer/dryer with a Samsung Bespoke AI Laundry unit. It comes with a blue silicone cup. I can't find any mention of it in the installation or user guides. I have searched videos. I found one where the blue cup was sitting on top of the unit, but was never mentioned. I'm trying to
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is a picture of the figure at imgbb. I tried creating an account but imgbb just says "Check the errors on this form to continue" without showing any errors. Anyway the picture has been uploaded and will be autodeleted after two weeks. I could have uploaded it to Commons but was unsure about whether
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Looking online, it seems like most people only bother with naming the informal fallacies. I'd guess that since any invalid syllogism (that's deductive non-probabilistic(?)) can be reduced to a contradiction or tautology, it seems to be just called a formal fallacy, non sequitur, or invalid argument
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However, if you use both of those implied premises of society, that both "bad drugs are illegal" and also "not-bad drugs are legal", then these two will imply "cigar is not-bad" and "weed is bad" respectively, and thus "cigar is worse than weed" creates a logical contradiction. If you use your Venn
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so there's definitely room for an oath. Interesting enough, the US code suggests that someone issued a passport when they were a baby would theoretically not need to make an oath, at most only their parents. (Although the NZ one suggests the process might be the same one for anyone applying for the
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The premises do not contain material that can be used for reasoning about the deontic status of the legality of weed. If our knowledge of the world is that cigars should be illegal and weed is illegal, this includes possible worlds in which weed should be legal. The premises also allow for another
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I declare under penalty of perjury all of the following: 1) I am a citizen or non-citizen national of the United States and have not performed any of the acts listed under "Acts or Conditions" on page 4 of the instructions of this application form (unless explanatory statement is attached); 2) the
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I think we can safely assume that authors, whether Hindu or not, know what they're talking about. A glance at some Knowledge articles reveals that some Knowledge editors (such as AstroLynx, above) are making this mistake. What is causing it? Well, the Indian national calendar is aligned with
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That's good to know. I've never uploaded images (it's years since I used a camera) but I believe Commons doesn't require signup either. There's a form to be filled in, so you can be certain you're not violating any copyrights. And the description can be updated, useful for future reference.
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It's hilarious how people get so worked up about something they apparently know very little about, or pretend not to. Acid? Mitsubishis/AK-47s/Rolls Royces? Pub grub/high-quality coke? Shrooms (Liberty caps/Mexicana)? Mephedrone? K? DMT? Squidgy black? Massive nugs of hilarious, revelatory skunk?
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Before a passport is issued to any person by or under authority of the United States such person shall subscribe to and submit a written application which shall contain a true recital of each and every matter of fact which may be required by law or by any rules authorized by law to be stated as a
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And your example of reversing the argument can be done by changing my "implied in society's law" premise above to its inverse: instead of "bad drugs are illegal", if one says "good (not-bad) drugs are legal" as your implied premise, then you can do the same argument (which will imply weed is bad
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I can give second-hand account of what it is like to vote as an elector. My father was an elector in 1984 for Missouri because he was high up in the machinists union and they publicly backed Reagan in both 1980 and 1984. He drove down to Jefferson City. The group met in a conference room in the
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As a US citizen living outside the USA I find that my passport needs to be renewed every 10 years at a US embassy or consulate that will require personal attendance, showing the expiring passport and a renewal fee in cash. It seems they regard the oath I gave over half a century ago in another
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relating to royal marriages remains unchanged - Falconer wasn't speaking as an impartial High Court Judge but as a member of Tony Blair's government. These pronouncements say more about how gullible the government thinks the population is than about the actual law. This section has been so
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have adopted a position that attempts to reconcile the traditional sidereal scheme with the fact of precession by suggesting that the signs remember the influence of the constellations that corresponded to them 2000 years ago (when the traditional system was first established) (Wilson, Fred;
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My guess is it would be an "oath or affirmation"; I've never heard of any time you had to "swear" for an official US government reason that you didn't have the opportunity to instead "affirm". Presumably this was originally meant to accommodate those who took a strict view of Matthew 5:34.
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which suggests the in person oath only needs be before the first passport so you could probably make a fuss and refuse an oath after your first passport if you really wanted to. That said I cannot find any info on what this actual oath is or even if it's generally administered on most first
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The next thing to check is whether the lawyer who is quoting the law to you has a "Conflict of Interest". Lord Falconer certainly did when he claimed that "custom" associated with royal marriages was stated by the Marriage Act to remain unchanged. What the Act actually says is that the
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Given all these premises, can we now draw conclusions that stem from the legality and illegality of cigar and weed? We know from my final society's-law premise that if cigar were a "bad drug", it would automatically be illegal. (However, observe that if weed were a "not-bad drug" it would
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There's implied premises (from being in the shared society etc). Let me write this as a more formal chain of logic -- I am using the active because you used it, as in " A are B", but you could also do this with something like " A should be B".) Begin with the definitions (you can draw
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This has no relevance whatsoever to the question, which is not about whether something is legal, or how to find out whether something is legal, but about the name of a fallacy. Or are you are proposing to name it the "Wedding of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles fallacy"?
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In a telephone conversation between two officers of an Armed Force of differing seniority, is it correct on the part of the junior officer to respond to the call by saying "Hello"? What is the correct way of beginning the telephonic conversation by the junior officer?
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Neither of my passports required oaths. I'm a citizen of the UK and one other Commonwealth country. Citizenship requires an oath or pledge (or one by your parents if you are getting your citizenship only via them). Passports require citizenship, but no separate oath.
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In the terms our article uses, "Sidereal astrology accounts for the Earth's axial precession and maintains the alignment between signs and constellations ... whereas tropical astrology ... does not take axial precession into consideration." So I'm afraid it's the
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prerequisite to the issuance of any such passport. If the applicant has not previously been issued a United States passport, the application shall be duly verified by his oath before a person authorized and empowered by the Secretary of State to administer oaths.
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Today, I went to the post office for a passport renewal. Iā€™ve noticed that you have to take an oath. Then, I found out that youā€™re supposed to take one when you get your passport the first time. Do you have to take an oath every time you renew your passport?
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I think you will find the museum people very helpful at info@nationalmuseum.se phone +46(0)8-519 543 00 . Specifically you can ask their Image Services at images@nationalmuseum.se, visiting address: Holmamiralens vƤg 2 (by appointment only).
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is the 2016 electoral vote for Georgia. In each question, assuming you are the one asking over and over, you ask if they write down the names. All they did here was sign a shared document that was hand delivered to Congress.
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Of course, the notion that one can apply formal categorical deduction to the inherently metaphorical and fluid structure that is natural language is itself a fallacy (which oddly I can't find a name for in our stupidly long
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premise that includes both "bad/good drugs" and "legal/illegal drugs" in it (or two premises that share a third property), you can choose that instead and then you should be able to follow a logical argument again.
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that it were legal or illegal.) So we can make this syllogism (based on the Law of the Excluded Middle from our strict definitions of bad/not bad drugs and legal/illegal -- remember Venn diagrams if you get lost):
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But adults renewing passports usually do so by mail, and that is the intended purpose of DS-82. Perhaps the original poster used a different form because, for some reason, the application had to be filed at a post
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means "turn", and relates to the fact that when it reaches the northern tropic (Cancer) the sun turns and begins moving south, and when it reaches the southern tropic (Capricorn) it turns and begins moving north.
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As was noted above, I indeed made an error, "tropical astrologers" who account for the precession of the equinoxes are mainly Western, "sidereal astrologers" who neglect precession are mainly Hindu/Indian.
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state to state, but you always vote on ballots. Voting can consist of putting a signature, writing a name, checking a box etc. That's what I meant. Thank you very much for your helpfulness and responses.
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Arizona's electoral votes look . If you are looking at handwritten votes, it is just garbage. Ignore it. As with the question above, states usually place all votes in one certified letter to Congress.
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of "society's" implicit premise: "bad drugs are illegal" inverts to "not-bad (or good) drugs are legal", and then you can follow the different premises for deduction to again come to a contradiction.
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The thing is that he picked a side (weed must be legal for being less harmfull then a legal drug), but the other side can be picked (cigar must be illegal for being more harmfull than a illegal drug).
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So now if you think about our "good-for-you"ness quantity scale again cigar being "not bad" means it rates 0--10, and if it's worse than weed then weed must rate 1--10, so it also must be "not bad":
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Just those 2 arguments alone dont say anything if this types of things need to work like X or like Y. The guy pick a side without giving any information why and tell everything must work like that.
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Why, when i enter "worldle" (no quotes and NOT wordle) into the wikipedia search text box does it say it is a web based number game? It isn't. The article correctly says it is a geography game. --
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are aware of precession but choose to ignore it, arguing that somehow the 'signs remember the influence of the constellations that corresponded with them two thousand years ago (Hines, Terence;
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As of 2020, the system has changed. But until 2016, how was the vote cast? Did one have to write the names of the candidates (president and vice president) on the ballot? Thank you.
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How would the junior officer know a senior officer is calling him? (unless he has all of the Armed Force in his contacts list) FWIW we said "Good morning. This is Major Gump."
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If you take the first three as being "true", the fourth thing does not follow logically. Why? Because legislators do not necessarily use logic to arrive at their conclusions. ā†
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country as persistently binding so I have never been asked to repeat it. The requirement may have been different for the OP who renewed at a post office and not at an embassy.
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the Gregorian, so the New Year always falls on 21 March, but the lunar calendars may be aligned with the "sidereal" as opposed to "tropical" (sun sign) calendar, so that the
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Thank you so much for your testimony and for sharing this family memory with me. I read you with pleasure. Thank you again for your answers which I found very helpful.
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They are working for themselves. They are not working for the Royal Family. They are hanging onto their royal titles and people are seeing them for what they are.
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diagrams (every thing is sets) and think about the excluded middle again, however, you'll see why using both premises is a contradiction from the very beginning.
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Tried them all, and I still enjoy raving to techno into the dawn with the ghost of Aldous Huxley. Actually, I once tried reading the opening chapter of
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The switch that you do between your first set of arguments and the second set in this comment, is what I outlined in my responses above by using the
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fact that India employs both "lunar" calendars and "solar" calendars (in "scare" quotes) in which the moon plays no part. However, if you read
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Oh, this is just swearing that you've told the truth on your application? That's completely different from what it sounded like in the thread.
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You don't need to upload it to commons, you can upload it to a free image hosting service like imgur and post the link to the image here. --
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about the logic is correct -- it is a formal deductive fallacy -- and as say in my later comment, they're usually all called the same thing.
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The only question by the OP that I see is "What is the name of this fallacy? ". I see no mention of an actual person having an opinion. Ā --
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counter that the signs remember the influence of the constellations that corresponded with them two thousand years ago (Abell, George;
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Well, the involvement of morality is accidental, and purely decorative. We're instructed to assume that cigars (or the variable named
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Now I will add a final implied premise, that of society's law, which you'll see will be critical if we want to do anything useful:
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https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2022/01/22/how-arizonas-trump-electors-planned-deliver-him-victory/6604574001/
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By "handwritten votesā€ are you referring to the image in the link i.e. the fake electors who cast their votes by writing the name?
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Currently renewing my passport in Australia. No oathing involved, except at the sloppily designed website I am forced to use.
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As has been pointed out, the only way to check whether something is legal is to check the law. As Baseball Bugs puts it,
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If A, B and C argue that weed is a pretty bad substance and that such substances must be illegal, there is no fallacy. Ā --
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Select the section of the desk that best fits the general topic of your question (see the navigation column to the right).
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The current PDF form to apply to renew a passport is DS-82 04-2022. Above where the applicant will sign is a statement:
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Hi everyone. The "Download as PDF" is not working. You are formidable, and your work is great, thank you for that.
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tell you about whether it is legal or illegal, going all the way back to my society's-law premise in the beginning?
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because it is not legal) to lead to a similar nonconclusion about whether cigars should be legal or illegal.
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This all assumes that the soldiers speak American/English. They may say something completely different. --
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That depends entirely on which country you are a citizen of, and that country's laws and regulations.
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Post your question to only one section, providing a short header that gives the topic of your question.
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Of course, as soon as I ask, Google image search leads me to the answer. It is a Samsung Aqua Pebble.
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Now let's lay out our premises in this abstract, formal argument, beginning with the ones you noted:
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characters) at the end ā€“ this signs and dates your contribution so we know who wrote what and when.
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applications. I assume it's just to confirm that the information in your application is true etc.
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This, of course, isn't exactly an oath, but I expect the penalty for falsehoods would be similar.
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The fixed version of the argument without the fallacy I want the name would be one of those:
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That said various embassy sources talking about a first passport do mention an appointment
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se. Instead it's the certificate of naturalisation which is required for the passport.)
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Interesting hint. I looked at some Indian astrology books and found some citations of
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the copyright status would allow it. Does anyone recognise whom this is a figure of?
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possibility no one mentioned, to wit that cheese is illegal but should be legal. Ā --
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I've noticed a few of these questions. Federal documents are publicly avaialble.
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The OP says he's American, so American federal law and/or policies would apply. ā†
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It is working for me now. In future, should you encounter a technical problem,
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first time once over the age of 16 as someone who's never had a passport.)
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I think we will all be interested to know how the case is progressing.
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Gadfium

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