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and Imperial concerns. Even while advocating the creation of parliaments for Britain and the Empire as a whole, Oliver was deeply critical of British democracy. He expressed these feelings in private, such as a letter he wrote during World War I that said, "…Democracy is not going to win this war or any other – if we win, it will be because the spirit of the small remnant who hate and despise democracy and all its works will save the country in spite of its democratic government." His attitude led him to play a part in the fall of the Asquith government later in the war as a member of the so-called
265:. In 1916 the Asquith government finally introduced conscription. Asquith fell from power in December 1916 and was replaced by Lloyd George, whereupon the new government carried out further measures in an attempt to make a stronger military effort in the war. Since not all of these men were Round Table members, some historians argue that the activities of the Monday Night Cabal were not Round Table-related, while others see them as part of a larger pattern of attempts by the Round Table to influence political events from behind-the-scenes. 778: 230:. Like Oliver, a number of Round Table members, most notably Lord Milner, also distrusted British democracy, and they began to look for ways to replace Asquith with someone who shared their ideas. They especially pressed for "national service," or conscription, to replace Britain’s volunteer army, a position Oliver had held even before war with Germany broke out. 98:, saying that: "… the union of the British race, the firm and effective federation of our people in all quarters of the earth, appears to me to be of such transcendent importance as a matter of both morals and of politics, that if the achievement of it required a sacrifice instead of a gain, I should be prepared to make it. 177:
using the pseudonym "Pacificus". These articles, which first appeared in May 1910, outlined his federalist ideas, especially his proposal for the establishment of separate parliaments in the United Kingdom to deal with purely local issues, while a supreme parliament would be responsible for national
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Oliver's biography of Hamilton was also influential in the United States. Oliver had interpreted the Hamilton–Jefferson rivalry as a conflict between two ideologies and types of statesmanship: the one based on reality, the other duped by illusion; the one commanding, the other led by circumstances;
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Following World War I, Oliver reduced his political activities, though he remained a member of the Round Table and continued writing books and essays. He was particularly disappointed by the political settlement reached with Ireland, which ran counter to his desire for a federalized system for
214:, where most of the planning was completed, and once the Round Table was established, he maintained a "keen" interest in its affairs for the rest of his life. A member of the movement’s central committee, or "Moot," he helped to edit 210:, the Kindergarten held a series of meetings to establish the Round Table movement, having as its immediate goal the federation of the British Empire. Oliver also attended the meetings, most notably at 74:. Oliver practiced law for three years, but he abandoned this career because he wanted to marry his first cousin Katharine Augusta McLaren. He joined the linen drapery firm of 108:, which used the example set by the federalists of the early United States to argue for a federal arrangement for the British Empire. The book came to the attention of Lord 286:
in Jedburgh which he gave to the town. Katharine Augusta Oliver opened the house in 1930. Oliver died on 3 June 1934 at Edgerston and was buried in the local churchyard.
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After World War I broke out in 1914, Oliver and many of his friends in the Round Table felt frustrated by the policies of Prime Minister
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Patrick M. Kirkwood, “Alexander Hamilton and the Early Republic in Edwardian Imperial Thought”, Britain and the World 12.1 (2019), 28-50
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member, Oliver expressed his political leanings in a series of books, pamphlets, and newspaper articles. In one of his first pamphlets,
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The term is used by A.M. Gollin in his study of Lord Milner. Another Round Table scholar, J.E. Kendle, uses the term "ginger group."
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Each Monday night a group of these and other men met to discuss strategies for deposing Asquith. The main members included: Oliver,
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which enabled him to marry. He became a partner in 1904. The company was extraordinarily successful and he was a rich man by 1914.
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Britain and the World (Magazine), “Alexander Hamilton and the Early Republic in Edwardian Imperial Thought”, 12 March 2019
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in 1916, and pressed for "home rule all round" to resolve the political conflict between Britain and Irish nationalists.
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asserted, "The book had probably more influence than any other political book of the decade." Novelist
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Oliver was born on 20 February 1864 to Catherine McLaren and John Scott Oliver. His grandfather was
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during the latter half of World War I, and contributed his own anonymous articles.
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hailed it as "one of the noblest biographies in our language". According to
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Proconsul in Politics: A study of Lord Milner in opposition and in power
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The Anvil of War: Letters Between F.S. Oliver and His Brother, 1914-1918
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The Anvil of War: Letters between F.S. Oliver and His Brother 1914–1918
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became the Bible of the young men of Milner’s Kindergarten." In 1934
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The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden
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Index

Alfred Milner, 1st Viscount Milner
Round Table movement
H. H. Asquith
David Lloyd George
Duncan McLaren
Edinburgh University
Trinity College, Cambridge
Austen Chamberlain
Joseph Chamberlain
Debenham & Freebody
Unionist Party (UK)
Imperial Federation
Alfred Milner
Milner's Kindergarten
South Africa
Boer War
Leo Amery
The Times
John Buchan
Theodore Roosevelt
Henry Cabot Lodge
Whitelaw Reid
Walter Lippmann
Newton D. Baker
Woodrow Wilson
Monday Night Cabal
Milner's Kindergarten
Lionel Curtis
Philip Henry Kerr
Plas Newydd

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