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65: 249: 24: 128: 333:(1942). According to the ALA wiki, it maintains in print two publications on filing rules, one covering that "word-by-word" convention, and another prepared in 1980 that is "letter-by-letter". A 1998 book attributes the changes to the rules to computer informatics, and notes the Mac/Mc change as its first example. 236:
There are in fact a number of options. In addition to sorting them under "Mac" and "Mc" respectively or choosing to sort them both under "Mac", it is known for Mc/Mac names to be placed in separate position before M. Sorting both under "Mc" is generally avoided as it can cause issues with names that
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comes before A in the alphabet. In actual practice, some indexes, such as the British Union Catalogue of Periodicals, did practice such extensive standardisation. Sometimes by various technical devices such as replacing terms with conventional abbreviations that would be the same in all languages.
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This topic has a complicated and disparate history, spread over different continents and relating to different areas of indexing, cataloguing and filing. The idea of a collating sequence itself has evolved, over time, and the "Mac and Mc" together example has been taken as representative of a
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A 1938 book that is a comparative study of cataloguing in various British libraries regarded Mac + Mc + M' sorting as an example of achieved "standardisation" in alphabetisation. It gave further examples where, it argued, such standardisation would be beneficial. One example was
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patronymic, is applied by ignoring the following space, which may or may not occur. The technical terms the author applies are "letter by letter" or "all through" for the case where spaces are ignored, and "word by word" or "nothing before something" for the case where
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divider of British origin. Some traditional filing systems treated Mac/Mc names as if the prefix were a letter such as a putative "Mc" between L and M or between M and N in the alphabet.
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gave a listing showing the operation of around 40 rules, of which "Mc = Mac" was one, for library card sorting. He was citing the
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in the sense of alphabetising any word with ä as if the letter were replaced by "ae". Other examples given are the replacement of
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Among the guides which generally recommend separating Mac and Mc so that names will be sorted exactly as they are spelled are
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Filing Rules for the Arrangement of the Dictionary Catalogs of the Cleveland Public Library (1922), p. 9;
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is a computer standard and its corresponding sorting is gradually replacing this exception to ordinary
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Processing Manual > Chapter IV. Composing Folder Descriptions Mc IV.D.3.d)Mc and Mac, St. and Saint
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The SBL Handbook of Style: For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies
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Butcher's Copy-editing: The Cambridge Handbook for Editors, Copy-editors and Proofreaders
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theatre reviews sorts Mc names as if spelled Mac. A 2002 official document for the
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New Steps to Service: Common-Sense Advice for the School Library Media Specialist
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A book on filing rules from 1918 gives an example showing Mc and M' treated as
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and archival practice. An example is from the Archives at the Yale University
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UCL Institute of Archaeology, Coursework Guidelines, Rules for Referencing
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by "Saint" to accommodate the French adjective in its feminine form; or
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recommends explicitly no special treatment for Mac and Mc.
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American Library Association Rules for Filing Catalog Cards
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A convention of sorting names with the Scottish and Irish
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Scottish Roots: A Step-By-Step Guide for Ancestor Hunters
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Cleveland Public Library (Bertha Rickenbrode Barden),
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Best Practice Standards for Indexing Land Instruments
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Cataloguing in Special Libraries: A survey of methods
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