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356: 31: 518:. But he says that Alexander has described the land beyond to lie facing the south, and that after sailing by this for 20 days you reach the city of Zaba, and still saying on for some days southward but rather to the left you reach Cattigara. He exaggerates the distance, for the expression is 343:
scholars have returned to the idea as recently as the 1990s, but there remains no substantial evidence to support the idea.) The Great Gulf was finally dispensed with in all its forms as more accurate accounts returned from both the
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Cathay and the Way Thither; Being a Collection of Medieval Notices of China with a Preliminary Essay on the Intercourse between China and the Western Nations Previous to the Discovery of the Cape Route
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to include within Ptolemy's reckoning of the Great Gulf. Those following Alexander's route from Zaba on its northern shore to Cattigara to its southeast consider it to be no more than the
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around 1406 and quickly spread the work's information and misinformation throughout Western Europe. The maps initially repeated Ptolemy's enclosed Indian Sea. Following word of
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Herrmann, Albert (1938), "Der Magnus Sinus und Cattigara nach Ptolemaeus" [The Magnus Sinus and Cattigara in Ptolemy],
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to mean "a few". Both Alexander and Marinus's works have been lost, but were claimed as authorities by Ptolemy in
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Richardson, William A.R. (2003), "South America on Maps before Columbus? Martellus's 'Dragon's Tail' Peninsula",
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The details of the Great Gulf changed somewhat among its various forms, but the ancient and Renaissance
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to follow Ptolemy's reduced figures or even smaller ones, cartographers during the early phases of the
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A detail from a 1794 map showing the common identification of the Great Gulf with the Gulf of Thailand
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Ancient cartographical feature known today as the Gulf of Thailand and surrounding areas
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Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, Illustrated by Numerous Engravings on Wood
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Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, Illustrated by Numerous Engravings on Wood
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Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, Illustrated by Numerous Engravings on Wood
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Malleret, Louis (1962), "XXV: Oc-Èo et Kattigara" [Oc-Èo and Cattigara],
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of his voyage. His account that Cattigara was "some days" sail from
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in having a strait southeast of the gulf communicating with the
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but identifications of Ptolemy's Cattigara with Han-era
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trader named Alexander, who returned safely and left a
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but differ in their considerations of how much of the
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Bunbury, Edward Herbert; Beazley, C. Raymond (1911),
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The expanse formed between it and the 29: 801: 767: 656: 644: 557: 299:'s circumnavigation of Africa, maps by 227:. By that time, Arab merchants such as 223:in the 9th century during the reign of 14: 994: 925: 823: 668: 587: 572: 959:Vaux, William Sandys Wright (1854b), 958: 946:Vaux, William Sandys Wright (1854a), 945: 912: 776:τῆς γεωγραφίας ὑποτυπώσεις ἐν ἐπιτομῇ 752: 740: 704: 450:would then be a former course of the 307:replaced this with a new form of the 287:). This was translated into Latin at 971: 611: 323:to conflate the Great Gulf with the 261:Book of the Description of the Earth 24: 25: 1028: 486:) had been the major port of the 175:to mean "numberless" days and by 34:The 11th Asian regional map from 932:, Singapore: Periplus Editions, 893:, vol. 55, pp. 25–37, 857:L'Archéologie du delta du Mékong 780:A Sketch of Geography in Epitome 435:, with Cattigara located in the 372:had it bound on the west by the 231:had begun regular commerce with 219:by a team of scholars including 929:Early Mapping of Southeast Asia 861:Archaeology of the Mekong Delta 830:The Oxford Classical Dictionary 795:The World Known to the Ancients 235:and, having passed through the 151:The gulf and its major port of 125:before disappearing from maps. 617: 504: 404:expanded the Gulf to form the 386:Medieval Islamic cartographers 206:"), he called the Great Gulf. 13: 1: 761: 884:] (in Greek), Alexandria 623:Ptolemy, translated by Yule. 548:, Vol. VII, §3 & 5. 533: 412:, considered to represent a 7: 963:, in Smith, William (ed.), 950:, in Smith, William (ed.), 917:, in Smith, William (ed.), 899:10.1080/0308569032000097477 10: 1033: 805:"Ptolemy: Geography"  560:, Vol. I, p. 53. 398:circumference of the Earth 363: 132: 128: 70: 1002:History of Southeast Asia 339:and others. (Some modern 311:, including details from 196:unknown eastern shoreline 115:Renaissance cartographers 876: 775: 497: 380:, chief among which was 1012:Ancient Greek geography 926:Suárez, Thomas (1999), 824:Glover, Ian C. (2005), 815:Encyclopædia Britannica 797:] (in Latin), Paris 309:Dragon's Tail peninsula 913:Smith, Philip (1854), 874:Geōgraphikḕ Hyphḗgēsis 414:southeastern peninsula 360: 317:continuing exploration 49: 790:Orbis Veteribus Notus 358: 133:Further information: 46:Harleian MS 7182 33: 315:. As early as 1540, 215:was translated into 135:Sino-Roman relations 89:was the form of the 877:Γεωγραφικὴ Ὑφήγησις 635:, Vol. I, §14. 143:Chinese cartography 1017:Historical regions 370:Ptolemaic accounts 361: 50: 980: 681:Richardson (2003) 512:Golden Chersonese 488:Kingdom of Nanyue 421:Golden Chersonese 374:Golden Chersonese 321:Sebastian Münster 305:Martin of Bohemia 271:Just after 1295, 254:as Ptolemy held. 237:Strait of Malacca 204:Golden Chersonese 147:Chinese geography 16:(Redirected from 1024: 988: 978: 968: 955: 942: 922: 909: 885: 864: 851: 842: 819: 807: 798: 783: 782:] (in Greek) 756: 750: 744: 738: 732: 726: 720: 714: 708: 702: 696: 693:d'Anville (1763) 690: 684: 678: 672: 666: 660: 654: 648: 642: 636: 633:Ptolemy (c. 150) 630: 624: 621: 615: 609: 603: 600:Ptolemy (c. 150) 597: 591: 585: 576: 570: 561: 555: 549: 546:Ptolemy (c. 150) 543: 527: 508: 456:Gulf of Thailand 433:Gulf of Thailand 402:Age of Discovery 396:. Believing the 297:Bartholomew Dias 273:Maximus Planudes 119:Age of Discovery 91:Gulf of Thailand 88: 73: 72: 21: 1032: 1031: 1027: 1026: 1025: 1023: 1022: 1021: 992: 991: 940: 878: 840: 777: 764: 759: 751: 747: 739: 735: 729:Malleret (1962) 727: 723: 717:Herrmann (1938) 715: 711: 703: 699: 691: 687: 679: 675: 667: 663: 655: 651: 643: 639: 631: 627: 622: 618: 610: 606: 598: 594: 586: 579: 571: 564: 556: 552: 544: 540: 536: 531: 530: 509: 505: 500: 448:Cottiaris River 429:South China Sea 425:Malay Peninsula 394:Sea of Darkness 366: 293:Jacobus Angelus 277:Chora Monastery 258:'s influential 200:Malay Peninsula 149: 131: 95:South China Sea 83: 28: 23: 22: 15: 12: 11: 5: 1030: 1020: 1019: 1014: 1009: 1004: 990: 989: 969: 961:"Magnus Sinus" 956: 943: 938: 923: 910: 886: 865: 852: 843: 838: 821: 810:Chisholm, Hugh 799: 784: 763: 760: 758: 757: 745: 733: 721: 709: 697: 685: 673: 661: 659:, p. 624. 657:Bunbury (1911) 649: 647:, p. 625. 645:Bunbury (1911) 637: 625: 616: 604: 592: 577: 562: 550: 537: 535: 532: 529: 528: 502: 501: 499: 496: 468:Gulf of Tonkin 423:a form of the 365: 362: 341:South American 281:Constantinople 190:in making the 130: 127: 76:o Mégas Kólpos 71:ὀ Μέγας Κόλπος 26: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1029: 1018: 1015: 1013: 1010: 1008: 1005: 1003: 1000: 999: 997: 986: 982: 974: 970: 966: 962: 957: 953: 949: 944: 941: 939:9781462906963 935: 931: 930: 924: 920: 916: 911: 908: 904: 900: 896: 892: 887: 883: 882:The Geography 879: 875: 870: 866: 862: 858: 853: 849: 844: 841: 839:9780198606413 835: 831: 827: 822: 817: 816: 811: 806: 800: 796: 792: 791: 785: 781: 774: 770: 766: 765: 754: 749: 742: 737: 730: 725: 718: 713: 706: 701: 694: 689: 682: 677: 671:, p. 71. 670: 669:Suárez (1999) 665: 658: 653: 646: 641: 634: 629: 620: 614:, p. cl. 613: 608: 601: 596: 590:, p. 99. 589: 588:Suárez (1999) 584: 582: 574: 573:Glover (2005) 569: 567: 559: 554: 547: 542: 538: 525: 521: 517: 513: 507: 503: 495: 493: 489: 485: 481: 477: 473: 469: 465: 461: 457: 453: 449: 445: 441: 438: 434: 430: 426: 422: 417: 415: 411: 410:South America 407: 406:Pacific Ocean 403: 399: 395: 391: 387: 383: 379: 375: 371: 357: 353: 351: 347: 342: 338: 334: 330: 326: 325:Pacific Ocean 322: 318: 314: 310: 306: 302: 298: 294: 290: 286: 282: 278: 274: 269: 267: 266:Dragon's Tail 263: 262: 257: 253: 249: 245: 241: 238: 234: 230: 226: 222: 218: 214: 213: 207: 205: 201: 197: 193: 189: 185: 184: 178: 174: 170: 167:was taken by 166: 162: 158: 154: 148: 144: 140: 136: 126: 124: 123:Pacific Ocean 120: 116: 112: 108: 104: 100: 96: 92: 86: 81: 77: 67: 63: 59: 55: 47: 43: 42: 37: 32: 19: 984: 964: 951: 928: 918: 890: 881: 873: 860: 856: 847: 829: 813: 794: 789: 779: 772: 753:Vaux (1854a) 748: 741:Smith (1854) 736: 724: 712: 705:Vaux (1854b) 700: 688: 676: 664: 652: 640: 628: 619: 607: 595: 553: 541: 523: 519: 506: 462:entrepôt of 418: 390:al-Khwārizmī 367: 327:west of the 270: 259: 256:Al-Khwārizmī 239: 221:al-Khwārizmī 211: 208: 192:Indian Ocean 182: 150: 84: 75: 58:Sinus Magnus 57: 54:Magnus Sinus 53: 51: 39: 18:Sinus Magnus 973:Yule, Henry 948:"Cottiaris" 915:"Cattigara" 891:Imago Mundi 826:"Cattigara" 769:Agathemerus 612:Yule (1866) 558:Agathemerus 350:West Indies 248:Cape Prasum 117:before the 996:Categories 871:(c. 150), 762:References 313:Marco Polo 244:open ocean 233:Tang China 210:Ptolemy's 188:Hipparchus 85:Great Gulf 80:anglicized 907:129171245 534:Citations 524:many days 520:some days 516:Cattigara 484:Guangzhou 476:Red River 444:Thoại Sơn 442:ruins at 416:of Asia. 388:followed 382:Cattigara 301:Martellus 225:al-Maʿmūn 212:Geography 183:Geography 153:Cattigara 97:known to 41:Geography 975:(1866), 464:Longbian 437:Funanese 408:west of 337:Ortelius 329:Americas 289:Florence 285:Istanbul 252:Zanzibar 240:en route 229:Soleiman 161:periplus 78:), also 1007:Ptolemy 869:Ptolemy 812:(ed.), 472:Vietnam 364:Details 303:and by 177:Ptolemy 169:Marinus 129:History 111:Persian 82:as the 36:Ptolemy 936:  905:  836:  492:Nanhai 452:Mekong 446:. 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Index

Sinus Magnus

Ptolemy
Geography
Harleian MS 7182
Latin
Greek
anglicized
Gulf of Thailand
South China Sea
Greek
Roman
Arab
Persian
Renaissance cartographers
Age of Discovery
Pacific Ocean
Sino-Roman relations
Daqin
Chinese cartography
Chinese geography
Cattigara
Greek
periplus
Zaba
Marinus
Tyre
Ptolemy
his Geography
Hipparchus

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