250:
consumer-oriented society; furthermore, the consumption of bananas (the ability to transport, buy, etc.) weighs heavily on the backs of laborers in the third world economies, the quintessential exploited proletariat. Probably you'd need to cite pp 1-18. University of Texas Press. ISBN: 978-0-292-71256-0
785:
As far as I can tell, though, this seems to be a fairly restricted provision applying to certain specified sets of official documents - laws, rulings, etc - rather than a general government-works-are-free. Do these images really qualify? Even if they do, that law may still be problematic - s.5 refers
306:
parameter. Personally, I find "a 500-metre (1,600 ft) -long strip" well-nigh intolerable; suggest we use "a 500-metre (1,600 ft) strip" instead (i.e. convert template with adj=on, and dropping the word "wide"). What should we do in cases where we give both height and width and "high" and "wide" can't
37:
Over the last few months I've been carrying out a sort of one-man
Wikiproject on the end of the Cold War - next month is the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the opening of the border between the two Germanies. As well as carrying out a great deal of research, I went to Germany and
361:
Ruth is right, Chris. You've produced 25,000 words of prose with (apparently) just a few dozen edits in the page history, and I've produced a few dozen dashes and non-breaking spaces with almost as many edits. It won't look right if I end up having more edits than you, without having contributed any
741:
This is a fantastic article. I've was impressed when I read it for assessment at the WP Germany, and am still favorably impressed with it now. It's undergone some tweaking, and its in better wiki-shape. I will be very pleased to support it for featured article as well. As far as the prose goes,
561:
There were two sets of border facilities at each crossing point, one on the east side and one on the west side. What you're looking at in that image is the West German border facility. The view is looking west into West
Germany - the vantage point is just to the western side of the border. The East
380:
Appearances are deceptive! I wrote most of it offline and much of it on the ground in the course of visiting the places described in the article. I don't mind in the least if you continue fixing technical issues. In fact, I'd be very grateful if you could continue (as fast as you like!) as it frees
249:
in his introduction to Banana cultures: agriculture, consumption, and environmental change in
Honduras and the United States (2005). By John Soluri. He refers to it in the intro, linking places of production and consumption. Basically, his point is that Bananas are a "staple" only in a
801:
The images were produced by the Stasi and are from the BtSU, the German government agency responsible for managing the Stasi's files. They were published in a series of museum exhibits and handouts as well as being available directly from the BtSU. If they don't fall under
187:
OK, I'll change it to match those sources. (If you're after GDR jokes try the following: two Stasi agents are talking one day. One of them asks the other, "What are you thinking?" The other replies, "Oh, same as you." The first retorts: "Then you are under arrest!") --
563:
826:
To put it simply, this article is suberb! There are no glaring problems and the biggest issue I've seen was the minor detail of n-dashes, which has been fixed. I have no qualms about this article and would be glad to support it for featured article status. Great job!
77:
We say that the "death strip" was informally known as "Pieck
Strasse". It's sourced to Rottman p. 17, but I am perturbed by the fact that I can't find a single reference to that being the control strip's nickname elsewhere. Could you double-check?
42:
article and will be creating and expanding various other related articles in the coming weeks. I'm aiming to get the article up to
Featured Article standard, but as a first step I'd appreciate it if it could be peer reviewed and reassessed. --
606:
section has a few unsourced paragraphs (the first two, and also some of the detailed measurements and other info on the various types of tower). When you go to FAC, people may want you to add sources; it's probably best to add them now.
66:
As I said on the talk page, it looks outstanding. I've fixed what disambig links there were, and inserted non-breaking spaces after numbers in dates etc. throughout (except in citation templates). I'll do some work on the alt texts as
272:) or hung Dollar Bananas on the windshields of their little two-cylinder Trabant cars, under the words: "German Banana Republic, R.I.P."" Apparently even now east(ern) Germans eat 20% more bananas than their western counterparts. --
764:
One issue that leaps out at me - there's a lot of East German government-produced images here. One or two (eg/ the film screenshot showing the DDR's view of the border) are tagged as non-free, but almost all of them are tagged as
70:
As far as I am concerned, this looks pretty much like FA quality right now – you've done an amazing amount of research – and it would be cool to have this on the main page on
November 9, marking 20 years since the Berlin Wall
234:
I also read somewhere that EG was called the "Banana-less
Republic" a spoof on the Banana Republic idea. I'll try to find that source, but you might keep your eyes open for it too. Perhaps in Harsch, I might find it.
775:"This image is in the public domain according to German copyright law because it is part of a statute, ordinance, official decree or judgment (official work) issued by a German federal or state authority or court (
650:
Otherwise, I'd encourage you to take the article to FAC now; you seem to have done all the remaining alt texts, and the last tweaks if any were needed can still be worked out while it's sitting at FAC. Good luck.
501:
630:
section is also very thin on references, especially the first half. Much of it is arguably common knowledge, but reviewers might want a ref for things like East
Germans not being allowed to travel to Poland.
38:
cycled nearly the full length of the former border, taking a large number of photographs and doing a lot of on-the-ground research over the course of several weeks. I've rewritten and greatly expanded the
356:
259:
742:
it's in great shape. Your sources are sufficient, maybe a bit heavy on the East German perspective in some areas, but balanced with the Wessie/Weissie perspective in others. Good Job.
375:
334:
244:
182:
164:
712:
281:
664:
643:
556:
538:
516:
488:
434:
320:
150:
102:. "Straße" might be an equivalent alternative name or a mistake by Rottman; it's hard to say. But it's clear that it was nicknamed "Pieck-something", whether "Straße" or "Allee". --
815:
678:
619:
593:
575:
448:
408:
390:
219:
197:
111:
726:
462:
421:
There are two works by Childs cited. References such as "Childs, p. 30" are therefore ambiguous. It would probably make sense to include both works in the
References section. --
669:
I'll fix as many of those remaining issues as I can and take it to FAC in a couple of hours' time, hopefully. Thanks very much for all your help - it's been invaluable. --
169:
Adversity gave it a particular edge (although Berlin humour in particular always had that edge). An "Allee" in German is a tree-lined avenue, so it really fits well. --
836:
52:
751:
698:
98:
It's referred to as "Pieck-Allee" by some other sources. Shears calls it by that name in his book (p. 71) and it's also mentioned on p. 178 of
Wilfred Ahrens,
795:
91:
811:
722:
708:
674:
639:
615:
571:
458:
444:
386:
277:
193:
119:
107:
48:
21:
806:, perhaps they can be used as fair use? If someone with more experience of German government copyrights could comment, that would be very helpful. --
298:. For example, "a 500 metres (1,600 ft) wide strip" should be "a 500-metre (1,600 ft) strip" or "a 500-metre (1,600 ft) -wide strip" according to
807:
718:
704:
670:
635:
611:
567:
454:
440:
382:
273:
189:
103:
44:
347:(which greatly speeds up the repetitive task of combing over the article's dashes to see that they comply with WP:HYPHEN). Happy editing!
543:
Is the Herleshausen image dated correctly? It looks as though one could just drive through; that would not have been possible in 1985.
344:
17:
786:
to the "Änderungsverbot" of s.62, which seems to prohibit making derivatives (but this may be a translation error). Thoughts?
566:
where the West German border facility (now demolished, of course) once stood. I'll tweak the caption to make this clearer. --
562:
German border facility point is further east, behind the vantage point (note that the border line isn't visible). You can see
325:
J, slow down! You'll soon have as many edits as Chris. Let him do the hyphens and such. He's an experienced editor.
494:
120:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?lr=&id=Kz9aAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22Pieck-Allee%22+ddr&q=pieck-allee#search_anchor
821:
603:
627:
803:
766:
736:
30:
756:
57:
268:: "Jubilant East Germans sported bumper stickers featuring two bananas forming the letter "D" (for
689:(OD) the FA folks will quibble over the use of "the" and similar types of words in the headings.
832:
352:
290:
I've done all (or at least most) of the n-dashes, but we still have some non-compliance with the
747:
694:
330:
255:
240:
160:
339:
Just to let you guys know, I just knocked off nearly a hundred n-dashes in compliance with
303:
8:
39:
31:
828:
791:
658:
587:
550:
532:
525:] ... but most are not. Reviewers at FAC are likely to ask for one consistent style. --
510:
482:
428:
402:
369:
348:
314:
213:
176:
144:
85:
761:
I'm impressed by this article, I have to say! Long and comprehensive and interesting.
395:
Sounds like a fun holiday!! (Okay then, but I'll avoid making lots of small edits.) --
743:
690:
326:
251:
236:
203:
156:
340:
299:
291:
776:
130:
125:
475:
said to have been used by protesters can't be right. Please check the source. --
381:
me up to resolve the more substantive content issues that have been raised. --
787:
653:
582:
545:
527:
505:
477:
423:
397:
364:
309:
295:
208:
171:
139:
80:
266:
Repainting the little red schoolhouse: a history of Eastern German education
302:. Where the convert template is used, the hyphen can be added by using the
100:
Hilferufe von drüben: die DDR vertreibt ihre Kinder: authentische Berichte
264:
I've seen that too. It's referred to on page 5 of John Rodden,
206:. Many of them lose something in translation though ... --
500:, and that seems to be how it was phrased at the time:
362:
substance to the article, so I'll slow down a bit. --
523:
A few references are hyperlinked, e.g. <ref: -->
439:Thanks for pointing that out, I'll fix it. --
131:http://www.kas.de/wf/doc/kas_5916-544-1-30.pdf
126:http://www.kas.de/wf/doc/kas_1384-544-1-30.pdf
604:Inner_German_border#Watchtowers_and_bunkers
628:Inner_German_border#The_fall_of_the_border
137:GDR humour had a certain something ... --
14:
202::) I note we have an article on this:
18:Knowledge:WikiProject Military history
27:
28:
847:
769:on Commons. This template says:
116:It seems to have been "Allee":
13:
1:
837:00:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
752:23:41, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
727:22:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
679:21:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
665:21:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
644:22:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
620:22:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
594:21:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
576:20:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
557:20:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
463:22:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
7:
816:23:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
796:17:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
713:23:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
699:23:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
539:14:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
517:18:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
489:14:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
449:23:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
435:14:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
409:23:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
391:23:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
376:14:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
357:03:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
335:01:30, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
321:01:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
282:23:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
260:23:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
245:23:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
220:14:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
198:23:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
183:23:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
165:23:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
151:23:23, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
112:23:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
92:22:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
53:14:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
10:
852:
453:Resolved, hopefully. --
122:(Ahrens, as you say ...)
343:and with the advice of
703:OK, I'll fix that. --
524:] ... or <ref: -->
345:Cameltrader's Advisor
307:simply be dropped? --
495:changed this now to
40:inner German border
32:Inner German border
204:East German jokes
155:just GDR humor?
843:
661:
656:
590:
585:
553:
548:
535:
530:
513:
508:
503:. Looks okay. --
497:Wir bleiben hier
485:
480:
431:
426:
405:
400:
372:
367:
317:
312:
216:
211:
179:
174:
147:
142:
88:
83:
851:
850:
846:
845:
844:
842:
841:
840:
824:
759:
739:
659:
654:
588:
583:
580:Sounds good. --
551:
546:
533:
528:
511:
506:
483:
478:
473:Wir steht hier!
429:
424:
403:
398:
370:
365:
315:
310:
214:
209:
177:
172:
145:
140:
86:
81:
60:
35:
26:
25:
24:
12:
11:
5:
849:
823:
820:
819:
818:
783:
782:
781:
780:
758:
755:
738:
735:
734:
733:
732:
731:
730:
729:
686:
685:
684:
683:
682:
681:
648:
647:
646:
624:
623:
622:
600:
599:
598:
597:
596:
541:
521:
520:
519:
469:
468:
467:
466:
465:
419:
418:
417:
416:
415:
414:
413:
412:
411:
359:
288:
287:
286:
285:
284:
262:
232:
231:
230:
229:
228:
227:
226:
225:
224:
223:
222:
135:
134:
133:
128:
123:
114:
72:
68:
59:
56:
34:
29:
15:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
848:
839:
838:
834:
830:
829:Laurinavicius
822:Laurinavicius
817:
813:
809:
805:
800:
799:
798:
797:
793:
789:
779:Abs.1 UrhG)."
778:
774:
773:
772:
771:
770:
768:
762:
754:
753:
749:
745:
728:
724:
720:
716:
715:
714:
710:
706:
702:
701:
700:
696:
692:
688:
687:
680:
676:
672:
668:
667:
666:
663:
662:
657:
649:
645:
641:
637:
633:
632:
629:
625:
621:
617:
613:
609:
608:
605:
601:
595:
592:
591:
586:
579:
578:
577:
573:
569:
565:
560:
559:
558:
555:
554:
549:
542:
540:
537:
536:
531:
522:
518:
515:
514:
509:
502:
499:
498:
492:
491:
490:
487:
486:
481:
474:
470:
464:
460:
456:
452:
451:
450:
446:
442:
438:
437:
436:
433:
432:
427:
420:
410:
407:
406:
401:
394:
393:
392:
388:
384:
379:
378:
377:
374:
373:
368:
360:
358:
354:
350:
349:Laurinavicius
346:
342:
338:
337:
336:
332:
328:
324:
323:
322:
319:
318:
313:
305:
301:
297:
293:
289:
283:
279:
275:
271:
267:
263:
261:
257:
253:
248:
247:
246:
242:
238:
233:
221:
218:
217:
212:
205:
201:
200:
199:
195:
191:
186:
185:
184:
181:
180:
175:
168:
167:
166:
162:
158:
154:
153:
152:
149:
148:
143:
136:
132:
129:
127:
124:
121:
118:
117:
115:
113:
109:
105:
101:
97:
96:
95:
94:
93:
90:
89:
84:
76:
75:
73:
69:
65:
62:
61:
55:
54:
50:
46:
41:
33:
23:
19:
825:
804:PD-GermanGov
784:
767:PD-GermanGov
763:
760:
744:Auntieruth55
740:
691:Auntieruth55
652:
581:
544:
526:
504:
496:
476:
472:
422:
396:
363:
327:Auntieruth55
308:
269:
265:
252:Auntieruth55
237:Auntieruth55
207:
170:
157:Auntieruth55
138:
99:
79:
63:
36:
471:The slogan
294:section of
270:Deutschland
22:Peer review
737:Auntieruth
493:An IP has
717:Done. --
634:Done. --
610:Done. --
341:WP:HYPHEN
300:WP:HYPHEN
292:WP:HYPHEN
74:Queries:
788:Shimgray
757:Shimgray
58:Jayen466
20: |
64:Comment
808:ChrisO
719:ChrisO
705:ChrisO
671:ChrisO
636:ChrisO
612:ChrisO
568:ChrisO
455:ChrisO
441:ChrisO
383:ChrisO
304:adj=on
296:WP:MOS
274:ChrisO
190:ChrisO
104:ChrisO
45:ChrisO
71:fell.
67:well.
16:<
833:talk
812:talk
792:talk
748:talk
723:talk
709:talk
695:talk
675:talk
640:talk
626:The
616:talk
602:The
572:talk
564:here
459:talk
445:talk
387:talk
353:talk
331:talk
278:talk
256:talk
241:talk
194:talk
161:talk
108:talk
49:talk
777:§ 5
660:466
589:466
552:466
534:466
512:466
484:466
430:466
404:466
371:466
316:466
215:466
178:466
146:466
87:466
835:)
814:)
794:|
790:|
750:)
725:)
711:)
697:)
677:)
655:JN
642:)
618:)
584:JN
574:)
547:JN
529:JN
507:JN
479:JN
461:)
447:)
425:JN
399:JN
389:)
366:JN
355:)
333:)
311:JN
280:)
258:)
243:)
210:JN
196:)
173:JN
163:)
141:JN
110:)
82:JN
78:--
51:)
831:(
810:(
746:(
721:(
707:(
693:(
673:(
638:(
614:(
570:(
457:(
443:(
385:(
351:(
329:(
276:(
254:(
239:(
192:(
159:(
106:(
47:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.